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	<title>Comments on: Fat Princess PS3 game &#8211; feminists pissed</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone get offended when they rolled a big fat man around city streets so he could eat food off the ground in the Sumo level of Katamari Damaci?

Honestly, I don&#039;t see a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone get offended when they rolled a big fat man around city streets so he could eat food off the ground in the Sumo level of Katamari Damaci?</p>
<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t see a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Tori</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2008/07/fat-princess-ps3-game-feminists-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-3470</link>
		<dc:creator>Tori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know what? im fat so does that mean i should hate this game because the princess is fat? hell naw!!! i think it looks so darn cute and i really wanna play it, im acually happy that finally there is a fat princess! so what if it makes us fat people look lazy...hell i want a nice handsome stud to come and save me but thats a different story. now what i have to say to those who dont like this game is, &quot;sit down shut up and eat some damn cake!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know what? im fat so does that mean i should hate this game because the princess is fat? hell naw!!! i think it looks so darn cute and i really wanna play it, im acually happy that finally there is a fat princess! so what if it makes us fat people look lazy&#8230;hell i want a nice handsome stud to come and save me but thats a different story. now what i have to say to those who dont like this game is, &#8220;sit down shut up and eat some damn cake!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Half-A-B</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2008/07/fat-princess-ps3-game-feminists-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-2682</link>
		<dc:creator>Half-A-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just silly. Monty Python silly.

What&#039;s it to say that it&#039;s not even more offensive from the &quot;slim-working man&quot; point of view?

Think about it; a fat(and arguably spoiled) princess who makes no effort in trying to help her underlings in her rescue. She just sit&#039;s and eats cake while they fight and &#039;die&#039; for her. Just like in real life. The capitalists, nobility and rich and wealhty of the world just pisses in the working mans pocket.

But then again... That&#039;s just a silly silly argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just silly. Monty Python silly.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s it to say that it&#8217;s not even more offensive from the &#8220;slim-working man&#8221; point of view?</p>
<p>Think about it; a fat(and arguably spoiled) princess who makes no effort in trying to help her underlings in her rescue. She just sit&#8217;s and eats cake while they fight and &#8216;die&#8217; for her. Just like in real life. The capitalists, nobility and rich and wealhty of the world just pisses in the working mans pocket.</p>
<p>But then again&#8230; That&#8217;s just a silly silly argument.</p>
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		<title>By: meerkat</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2008/07/fat-princess-ps3-game-feminists-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>meerkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it&#039;s the tone argument!  Fatties need to stop being so angry.
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		<title>By: phoenix0879</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2008/07/fat-princess-ps3-game-feminists-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenix0879</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve read through the comments on this and there&#039;s some very thought provoking posts, especially the one by anabbeynormality. As a male bisexual gamer and a strong proponent of equality regardless of gender, sexuality, race and others too numerous to list, the continued debate over this game has piqued my interest.
I do feel the need to address the point raised by some that males are less stereotyped in games than females.
This is blatantly untrue, men are as stereotyped in games as anyone else. Take a good look at the &#039;heroes&#039; in games like Resident Evil 5, F.E.A.R 2, Fallout 3 (no matter how you twiddle with the settings), The Orange Box - practically any game you care name. The men are all hollywood good looking leading man types. The &#039;tech guys&#039; if there are any are either a &#039;geek&#039; wearing glasses or worse a Dennis Nedry from Jurassic Park style fat guy. A portly hero or good looking nerd are even rarer in gaming than a flat-chested woman.
Men are as stereotyped as anyone else, with chiseled jaw and fabulous six pack (oh how I wish that were me), as completely unrealistic as Lara Crofts ever inflating assets. If feminism is about equality - well congratulations, it&#039;s arrived. Welcome to the world of equal opportunity stereotyping in all areas of the media. Male or female, a character immediately falls into stereotypes in gaming. A female or male lead MUST be attractive, an idealised attractive at that. The villian must be moustache twirlingly evil (and preferably British or A Terrorist). The plucky assistant must be cute, not hot, and always admiring of the lead.
Personally, I find the concept of someone being overfed to the point of needing an army to carry them to safety ironically amusing, being overweight myself. After all, if we can&#039;t laugh at ourselves, what can we laugh at?
Sometimes I feel people take offense for the sake of taking offense, that if they don&#039;t perceive themselves as being victimised then they lose perspective and direction. Humor shouldn&#039;t be politically correct - if never has been and never should be. The best humor pushes boundaries imo, going right to the edge and often beyond, forcing us to look at things from a new perspective.
Anyway, just my (somewhat late to the game) tuppence worth. Sometimes a game is just a game, with no deeper meaning than providing silly interactive entertainment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve read through the comments on this and there&#8217;s some very thought provoking posts, especially the one by anabbeynormality. As a male bisexual gamer and a strong proponent of equality regardless of gender, sexuality, race and others too numerous to list, the continued debate over this game has piqued my interest.<br />
I do feel the need to address the point raised by some that males are less stereotyped in games than females.<br />
This is blatantly untrue, men are as stereotyped in games as anyone else. Take a good look at the &#8216;heroes&#8217; in games like Resident Evil 5, F.E.A.R 2, Fallout 3 (no matter how you twiddle with the settings), The Orange Box &#8211; practically any game you care name. The men are all hollywood good looking leading man types. The &#8216;tech guys&#8217; if there are any are either a &#8216;geek&#8217; wearing glasses or worse a Dennis Nedry from Jurassic Park style fat guy. A portly hero or good looking nerd are even rarer in gaming than a flat-chested woman.<br />
Men are as stereotyped as anyone else, with chiseled jaw and fabulous six pack (oh how I wish that were me), as completely unrealistic as Lara Crofts ever inflating assets. If feminism is about equality &#8211; well congratulations, it&#8217;s arrived. Welcome to the world of equal opportunity stereotyping in all areas of the media. Male or female, a character immediately falls into stereotypes in gaming. A female or male lead MUST be attractive, an idealised attractive at that. The villian must be moustache twirlingly evil (and preferably British or A Terrorist). The plucky assistant must be cute, not hot, and always admiring of the lead.<br />
Personally, I find the concept of someone being overfed to the point of needing an army to carry them to safety ironically amusing, being overweight myself. After all, if we can&#8217;t laugh at ourselves, what can we laugh at?<br />
Sometimes I feel people take offense for the sake of taking offense, that if they don&#8217;t perceive themselves as being victimised then they lose perspective and direction. Humor shouldn&#8217;t be politically correct &#8211; if never has been and never should be. The best humor pushes boundaries imo, going right to the edge and often beyond, forcing us to look at things from a new perspective.<br />
Anyway, just my (somewhat late to the game) tuppence worth. Sometimes a game is just a game, with no deeper meaning than providing silly interactive entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Arielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how people could have a problem with this. I think the idea is hilarious and has so much personality! I&#039;m glad that the people who made this game came up with such a creative idea.
If they had replaced the Fat Princess with a regular princess or treasure chest, it would not have the same humorous feeling, and it would not be as original. And obviously the princess&#039; people, who carry her back to their side, care enough about her to not obsess over her weight. Her subjects clearly value her as their beloved princess, regardless of her being morbidly obese.
Some feminists go too far, and they end up making other feminists look bad. They&#039;re entitled to their opinion, but aren&#039;t there other issues to focus on rather than being fired up over something that is not anti-female in any way, shape or form?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how people could have a problem with this. I think the idea is hilarious and has so much personality! I&#8217;m glad that the people who made this game came up with such a creative idea.<br />
If they had replaced the Fat Princess with a regular princess or treasure chest, it would not have the same humorous feeling, and it would not be as original. And obviously the princess&#8217; people, who carry her back to their side, care enough about her to not obsess over her weight. Her subjects clearly value her as their beloved princess, regardless of her being morbidly obese.<br />
Some feminists go too far, and they end up making other feminists look bad. They&#8217;re entitled to their opinion, but aren&#8217;t there other issues to focus on rather than being fired up over something that is not anti-female in any way, shape or form?</p>
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		<title>By: Dagger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I post on most feminist sites, opinions that deviate including having no insults- I&#039;m cast off as a troll, told to shut the f*** up, etc. Decorum is important. Hostility will only be greeted with hostility. I&#039;ve pretty much given up on them and it didn&#039;t take long.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I post on most feminist sites, opinions that deviate including having no insults- I&#8217;m cast off as a troll, told to shut the f*** up, etc. Decorum is important. Hostility will only be greeted with hostility. I&#8217;ve pretty much given up on them and it didn&#8217;t take long.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Diane Reitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Diane Reitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think Fat Princess is more a statement on class struggle and the bourgeoisie. The Fat Princess clearly represents the capitalist over-indulgences of the First World, and her need to be carried around obviously symbolizes the way that the wealthy are effectively &#039;carried&#039; through life on the backs of the poor.
I really can&#039;t see where all of this other stuff you are going on about is coming from.
Fat Princess is blatantly a subversive intellectual marvel of Socialist/Marxist gaming, can&#039;t anyone see that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think Fat Princess is more a statement on class struggle and the bourgeoisie. The Fat Princess clearly represents the capitalist over-indulgences of the First World, and her need to be carried around obviously symbolizes the way that the wealthy are effectively &#8216;carried&#8217; through life on the backs of the poor.<br />
I really can&#8217;t see where all of this other stuff you are going on about is coming from.<br />
Fat Princess is blatantly a subversive intellectual marvel of Socialist/Marxist gaming, can&#8217;t anyone see that?</p>
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		<title>By: Highmax</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2008/07/fat-princess-ps3-game-feminists-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>Highmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be the opinions of everyone if say the princess still is fat and needed to be rescued, but the soldiers themselves were females?
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		<title>By: Mrs Garrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, well boys didn&#039;t get offended when fat albert came out and all of the sudden fat princess is announced and boom feminist everywhere spaz out.
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