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	<title>Comments on: Butch Character Creation &#8211; Creating the butch look in gaming</title>
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		<title>By: sarah watkins</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2007/11/butch-character-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-1580</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would be interested to know how many lesbians are gamers and if we really are a small minority in the gaming world, cos if we are not - that could shoot the developers arguements down about what are really fantasy models for pre-pubescent straight males
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would be interested to know how many lesbians are gamers and if we really are a small minority in the gaming world, cos if we are not &#8211; that could shoot the developers arguements down about what are really fantasy models for pre-pubescent straight males</p>
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		<title>By: Psp Skin</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2007/11/butch-character-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>Psp Skin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good story.You should have went with heavy armor. I know the Imperial and Blades sets at least have the same flat breastplate for male and female characters...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good story.You should have went with heavy armor. I know the Imperial and Blades sets at least have the same flat breastplate for male and female characters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dsi Skin</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2007/11/butch-character-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-1578</link>
		<dc:creator>Dsi Skin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, I read &amp; enjoyed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, I read &#038; enjoyed.</p>
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		<title>By: lacrossegirlie</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2007/11/butch-character-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-1577</link>
		<dc:creator>lacrossegirlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 11:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I agree with the piece. saying games shouldn’t cater to a &quot;sub group within a sub group&quot;
its.
not.
about.
being.
GAY.
WOW!
it has nothing to do with sexuality.its about not being a stereotype.
i would think EVERYONE would benefit from more individualized character Customization.
side note: there are more then two genders because there is more than XX and XY(geneticaly) and mental gender is more fluid and not always a CHOICE. take a look at gender studies and genetics
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I agree with the piece. saying games shouldn’t cater to a &#8220;sub group within a sub group&#8221;<br />
its.<br />
not.<br />
about.<br />
being.<br />
GAY.<br />
WOW!<br />
it has nothing to do with sexuality.its about not being a stereotype.<br />
i would think EVERYONE would benefit from more individualized character Customization.<br />
side note: there are more then two genders because there is more than XX and XY(geneticaly) and mental gender is more fluid and not always a CHOICE. take a look at gender studies and genetics</p>
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		<title>By: Gabi</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2007/11/butch-character-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the character looks like a guy. Hate to break it to u. And I don&#039;t date guys (personal opinion i kno).
But u did a really good job on it aside from that. lol. good work!  :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the character looks like a guy. Hate to break it to u. And I don&#8217;t date guys (personal opinion i kno).<br />
But u did a really good job on it aside from that. lol. good work!  <img src='http://lesbiangamers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ShadowTiger</title>
		<link>http://lesbiangamers.com/2007/11/butch-character-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-1575</link>
		<dc:creator>ShadowTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that games should be more accommodating of people&#039;s choices. 2 people have stated that you are either male or female... &quot;deal with it.&quot;
Unfortunatley thats not really true... since those are just social constructs. While it is true that their are 2 separate roles in procreation most video games don&#039;t have pregnancy/childbirth (fable 2!!!)
Anyways... there is a large spectrum of genders that people identify with, and a large number of body types that people feel are comfortable with. I think that game developers should offer more choices.
BTW if you are playing on PC (upgrading = pc) you can download mods for oblivion which change the way you look. They are mostly to satisfy male fantasies but could provide you with what you desire (there are 2 or 3 different ones). In addition, it would take you about 5 minutes to create a mod that allows you to wear pants/shirts as a female. Actually you just replace the female graphics with the male ones, its pretty simple. I know that the original post was 5 months ago but i think this was important to mention.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that games should be more accommodating of people&#8217;s choices. 2 people have stated that you are either male or female&#8230; &#8220;deal with it.&#8221;<br />
Unfortunatley thats not really true&#8230; since those are just social constructs. While it is true that their are 2 separate roles in procreation most video games don&#8217;t have pregnancy/childbirth (fable 2!!!)<br />
Anyways&#8230; there is a large spectrum of genders that people identify with, and a large number of body types that people feel are comfortable with. I think that game developers should offer more choices.<br />
BTW if you are playing on PC (upgrading = pc) you can download mods for oblivion which change the way you look. They are mostly to satisfy male fantasies but could provide you with what you desire (there are 2 or 3 different ones). In addition, it would take you about 5 minutes to create a mod that allows you to wear pants/shirts as a female. Actually you just replace the female graphics with the male ones, its pretty simple. I know that the original post was 5 months ago but i think this was important to mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought the game and the character creator is ok, but I exchanged it because the game didn&#039;t appeal to me.
Being a mtf trans lesbian, I found it utterly stupid that a lot of the facial features were hard to control or even get a proper look for someone who wanted something feminine but with a bit of masculinity because of my birth gender. Meh... oh well. I hope you find a better game that gives you what you want.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the game and the character creator is ok, but I exchanged it because the game didn&#8217;t appeal to me.<br />
Being a mtf trans lesbian, I found it utterly stupid that a lot of the facial features were hard to control or even get a proper look for someone who wanted something feminine but with a bit of masculinity because of my birth gender. Meh&#8230; oh well. I hope you find a better game that gives you what you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Faye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people don&#039;t seem to get the point.
I would just like some more female characters - that don&#039;t look like hookers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people don&#8217;t seem to get the point.<br />
I would just like some more female characters &#8211; that don&#8217;t look like hookers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well hey, I dont See why Devs should have to Extend themselves to appeal to different Ilks, Like, if they appealed to &quot;butch&quot; lesbians, they would have to appeal to Straight sluts as well, and have a class that accels at cooking, cleaning, and sewing, and is so bad at combat, the only armor they bother to wear is a metal miniskirt, wearing a very evident thong, and a bra to small for her enormous rack. Also, you would have to be able to play as a FLAMING male homosexual, and have the ability to once a day, enlarge your package and use it as a weapon. they would have to add alot of character models to appeal to everyone.
Solution: appeal to no one who will say &quot;that person with obscure sexual taste or tendency to wear clothes of the opposite sex has theirs, why cant I have mine?&quot;. I myself am a straight male, but I respect other..uhm... Gay people... and I mean cmon! I have to play as women in some games, and the only gay guy i can think of is in Enchanted arms, and I really dont care, just because they like to scissor fuck, or have anal with another man, shouldn&#039;y upset you, I dont have a tale, why should I have to sit through FF 9 and play as Zidane.. God damnit..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hey, I dont See why Devs should have to Extend themselves to appeal to different Ilks, Like, if they appealed to &#8220;butch&#8221; lesbians, they would have to appeal to Straight sluts as well, and have a class that accels at cooking, cleaning, and sewing, and is so bad at combat, the only armor they bother to wear is a metal miniskirt, wearing a very evident thong, and a bra to small for her enormous rack. Also, you would have to be able to play as a FLAMING male homosexual, and have the ability to once a day, enlarge your package and use it as a weapon. they would have to add alot of character models to appeal to everyone.<br />
Solution: appeal to no one who will say &#8220;that person with obscure sexual taste or tendency to wear clothes of the opposite sex has theirs, why cant I have mine?&#8221;. I myself am a straight male, but I respect other..uhm&#8230; Gay people&#8230; and I mean cmon! I have to play as women in some games, and the only gay guy i can think of is in Enchanted arms, and I really dont care, just because they like to scissor fuck, or have anal with another man, shouldn&#8217;y upset you, I dont have a tale, why should I have to sit through FF 9 and play as Zidane.. God damnit..</p>
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		<title>By: you cant be serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>you cant be serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your kidding?!?!? &quot;Give the rest of us some recognition?&quot; Listen, your choices in life are your choices and personally, i could care less. &quot;Give us some recognition?&quot; Aren&#039;t you the one who chose to go against the grain? while its hopefully accepted in our cultures, Do you think anyone other than you worries about weather or not there is a out of shape man pant wearing woman in their list of character options? I&#039;m sure it would be a lot to use generic genderless clothing in game, but that&#039;s another article. don&#039;t you think that this logic is not only selfish, but a little concerning? Truth is, weather your gay or strait, your still a man or a woman. what issues must you have that you need all that extra attention.  Stop sucking other people into your world and its foolish insecurities.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your kidding?!?!? &#8220;Give the rest of us some recognition?&#8221; Listen, your choices in life are your choices and personally, i could care less. &#8220;Give us some recognition?&#8221; Aren&#8217;t you the one who chose to go against the grain? while its hopefully accepted in our cultures, Do you think anyone other than you worries about weather or not there is a out of shape man pant wearing woman in their list of character options? I&#8217;m sure it would be a lot to use generic genderless clothing in game, but that&#8217;s another article. don&#8217;t you think that this logic is not only selfish, but a little concerning? Truth is, weather your gay or strait, your still a man or a woman. what issues must you have that you need all that extra attention.  Stop sucking other people into your world and its foolish insecurities.</p>
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